RE: live chat in Podverse

One of the most popular requests we've been getting is adding support for live chat during live streams. This would be a killer feature, but we're constrained by the fact there isn't an official 2.0 namespace for it yet.

It's also a complex issue. For ex. if a podcast uses IRC, then a user will need to log into each individual chat room. Not a great UX. But if a podcast uses XMPP or Matrix then they could log in once and join any server with the same federated account

Our preference at the moment would be XMPP, because it is a federated chat solution that is much simpler to integrate than Matrix (according to what I've heard). That said, we know we need to meet podcasters and listeners where they are at, so we're also open to IRC and/or Matrix if people can help define a path forward for us.

@podverse one thing on the side of @matrix is that it can be a hub for other protocols too: for example, all of @liberachat is bridged and other #IRC servers could be too. Some quick reading makes it seem similar may be true for #XMPP.

@technicalissues @podverse @matrix @liberachat Another thing to consider is that IRC and XMPP are internet standards and not dependend on any single vendor. Matrix is just another IM product of a single startup and not submitted or published by any standards body.

@kaip @technicalissues @matrix @liberachat interesting I didn’t know Matrix is not an open protocol 😮


@podverse @kaip @technicalissues @liberachat nor did we. clearly we’re hallucinating the open standards process at and

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@kaip @matrix @podverse @technicalissues @liberachat Having published specifications and having many open servers and clients outright existing seems sufficient! If your only objection is that no formal standards body is involved, that seems like an incredibly weak objection (and also I have some bad news for you about many "standards" that are supported by standards bodies but in practice aren't actually supported in the wild, and also I have some bad news about how "open" many of those standards bodies are...).

@matrix @kaip @technicalissues @liberachat

I get the impression there is a disagreement about the semantics of the term "open protocol" here. In any case, we look forward to integrating XMPP, Matrix, and IRC for podcast livestream chat rooms.

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